Friday, April 09, 2010

"Save W Ridge Kindergarten" Group Plots & Plans

I was warned that the Boily Bunch would get these folks to support the BOE's ridiculous budget proposal. Here's evidence that they plan to do so, but only to save their floundering school. Since they shamelessly and publicly post their names, emails and phone numbers on a social networking site, I have no problem reposting them here. They forgot to tell people that Kleenex is not included, no matter how much you cry into the mic.

Posted to Facebook by Jerriann Cocilova Grierson April 9, 2010 at 2:07pm

Calling all West Ridge Parents! Wed. April 14th @ Arcadia MS West Ridge is attending the district budget meeting @ 7pm until 8:30. It is IMPERATIVE that we have parents & staff there! We need to have 10 people in order for the WR PTA to have a quorum and vote on supporting the budget or not. Then we can campaign for or against the budget. It would be in our best interest to vote for it!!!! This is an important political piece so PLEASE make the time to go and stay to the end when we will then take a table/room & decide to support or not. This is phase 2 of saving WR. We need the budget to pass!!!!!!!!!

Questions? Contact our PR person Carolyn: czacks@gmail.com or by calling or emailing one of your PTA Executive Comm. members: Sandra 663-6138 witchywomansmd@frontiernet.net

Tracey 720-1611 traceypier@frontiernet.net
Karen 225-1854 karenleberth@yahoo.com
Colleen 865-1079 collstequila@aol.com

Since they only need 10 people to wag the dog, I think it's high time that the opposition show up in large numbers.

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

"Then we can campaign for or against the budget." So it appears that the Westridge pta could support or oppose the budget and they will wait until the end of the board meeting to do so.
So the board realizes that these parents are using extortion to save their school. We can infer if things do not go their way they will oppose the budget in an organized way. No wonder we are bussing these kids all over and spending so much on these schools. These ladies really know how to manipulate the puppet board. They must have taken training from the school of choice parents of Pinebrook when it was feared it would not open many years ago. If the board feels embarrassed or threatened by pretty ladies they cave.

SCATS said...

To 10:52PM ~~ First of all, the budget is already a done deal, unless GTA becomes spontaneously empathetic. Secondly, although they posted some awfully personal info in the equivalent of a public washroom stall, they are bright enough to realize certain realities ... so they will support it. This was recognized by the comment's author : "We need the budget to pass!!!!!!!!!"

I wonder if their kids are allowed to post their home phone numbers & email addy's online like this ... ?

Anonymous said...

These people are truly sick! Self-centered doesn't even start to describe how they come across when they whine about their private school troubles. Who cares? I'm voting no and I hope the school board is finally forced to face reality. We can't afford these programs any more. ENOUGH!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I truly look at the amount of bussing we do in this district as nothing short of insanity.
These people are being used but they want to be used. There is no objective thinking takes place in this or any pta.
Bottom line THEY will support a 7.6% tax increase to get what THEY want.

Anonymous said...

The parents are just acting as most parents would to try to save a school or a program they desire. Since that is the most important issues to them they may see the mater thought a different lens than others.

It's up to everyone to vote the way they want, like SCATS and many people here I will almost certainly vote no, but I see no harm in the parents advocating fro their interests as they see fit.

Maybe I am missing something here?

SCATS said...

To 9:21AM ~~ I think in the bigger picture that you are likely missing is that parents in Greece have been divided, just like our community has been divided. We're divided in so many different ways that we're failing to get the bigger issues (graduation rates, for example) addressed because the time, energy & resources are being used up advocating for things that SHOULD BE THE SAME ACROSS THE DISTRICT. In this instance, this school has outlived its purpose of providing a "buffer." It's time to move forward and close down a couple of buildings for cost savings to EVERYONE. We're 2000+ students down.

Anonymous said...

The real point is that a higher percentage of people who have a special interest will vote. Too many apathetic people won't, even if it means budgets and other issues get passed against their better interest.

SCATS said...

To 9:44AM ~~ I agree that a higher percentage of people who have a special interest will vote but it will be due to such "meetings" as this PTA is planning. Don't forget, they are saying they only need 10 people to bring the BOE to their calloused knees.

Anonymous said...

These WR parents will have to do the same whining and parading their sobbing kids in front of the BOE next year when enrollment is still way under at WR, and we will have a new Superintendent who will most likely suggest that enrollment be phased out since it is costing the district money. But hopefully the new BOE will have enough of a backbone not to backdown to every pathetic group and realize the Supers suggestion was fiscally responsible, although a hard decision we need a board that is going to back whoever the Superintendent is when he has to make decisions and cuts that do not please everyone because it is the right thing to do. I know the WR PTA mom is hoping to win a spot on the board next year so she can campaign for her school to stay open because she knows it is going to have the same bleak enrollment figures next year if not worse than this year. We should not elect people that are running for their own personal agendas. The meetings are dysfunctional enough without an added drama edition that she has already proven she is capable of putting on. This entire WR saga should not even be an issue, the phasing out should have been started this year, now when the bandaid gets ripped off next year the parents are going to be even more out of control.

SCATS said...

To 8:42PM ~~ I see this upcoming BOE election & budget vote as CRUCIAL for this district's future! People need to get educated about who the people are that seek BOE seats this year. I hear that Boily has three contenders to back with money from the Chamber & Rotary folks ... it's called buying control. IF successful, and I fear he will be given the poor voter turnout amongst the sheeple of Greece, it is quite possible that there will be no new Supt. coming to Greece. Boily could get his people on the board and control the vote to retain Achramovitch's reign and end the search for someone new. I'm not the only person who has this fear. I've heard this story repeated many times over the past year :(

Anonymous said...

So who's running-I've heard Moscato, Russell

SCATS said...

To 8:35AM ~~ There is a parent named Beth Race who was circulating a petition. I've heard that incumbent Jeff Smith is planning to turn in a petition and that Gale O'Toole is undecided still about seeking a second term. I'm surprised that O'Toole would put so much time & resources into becoming a Master Boardsperson and then give it up. Joe Grinnan who ran last time also is considering another try. There are others that I'm not at liberty to comment on as of yet.

Anonymous said...

SCATS - "you're not at liberty to comment on yet" Such cloak and dagger stuff. Reality is this...if they haven't picked up a board petition, then they aren't in the running. "Considering" it just doesn't cut it in my book. Time's a wastin' round these parts. And, as an aside, once they pick up a petition, they are fair game to have their name publicly circulated because, THEN, they are sincerely "considering".

SCATS said...

To 8:32AM ~~ I disagree. If someone picks up a petition many months ahead of the usual time, I have no idea if they are serious. If someone has a petition, but it's known they have done nothing to collect names, then I am not so sure their intent is serious. And sometimes people pick up petitions, get the names and then decide not to turn them in. So until the deadline arrives for turning in petitions, nothing is certain.

As I said earlier, with under 100 names needed, some serious folks have LOTS OF TIME LEFT to get a petition and get the names.

Anonymous said...

There is an "unspecified" timeline on when petitions need to be made available to those interested. Generally, school districts make them available one month prior to the date that they are required to be returned. One could not pick one up "many months ahead of time" because they aren't available at all times. Ed Law doesn't prescribe the earliest date a candidate may begin collectiong signatures but the Commissioner has ruled, in one case, that it was not unreasonable for a dsitric to accept nominating petitions that contained signatures collected prior to the posting of thenotice of the annual meeting, absent evidence that this practice gave some candidates an unfair advantage over others. Ed Law also states that nominating petitions must be signed by at least 25 qualified voters or 2% of the number of voters who voted in the prvious annual election of the members of the BOE, whichever is greater. SO..the number you are all worked up about is actually derived because of the apathetic voter response in Greece. If more people exercised their right to vote, then each subsequent election would require more signatures; perhaps in that case we would get better qualified candidates -- I'm not sure.

In addition, you don't need to submit a petition in order to be elected. All ballots must have one blank space for each vacancy on the school board, in which voters may write in the name of any candidate who is not listed on the ballot. Sooo...theoretically, you and all your supporters on here could collaborate to "write in" someone as a surprise candidate and maybe he/she would actually win!

Politics.....fun, fun, fun.

Anonymous said...

The Board gave all PTA's 2 dates to attend the District Budget Meetings to explain the 2010-11 proposed budget and to try to "even" out the number of people attending each meeting.They then encouraged the PTAs through e-mail to pick a date. This should be interesting.The dates are April 14th and April 29th. After reading the blog here, I know which one I want to avoid (Thank you for the info SCATS). There will unfortunately be no changes to the schools of choice. SCATS said it right- "The budget is already a done deal."

Unfortunately that bandaid will not hold for long because you simply can't treat a hemmorage with a bandaid. We are gushing out now because of previous bandages that wouldn't hold. These signature schools have not shown that the kids are really gaining anything from their "specialties" and yet just the transportation alone is costing us too much. In fact, these schools still have to teach the same curriculum district wide, correct? After all, if you look up the district curriculum and standards and even the NYS curriculum and standards, each grade is the expected to follow these guidlines. There may be some things added in here and there, but overall, they are taught the same core subjects through the same programs. In a time of a weak economy across the nation, many are cutting back and changing lifestyles. Apparently, that is not even an option for us in the GCSD... we have the board wanting to raise taxes and continue to provide something unnecessary. The bigger picture is letting go of segregation across the board... starting with the schools, it should domino to allow neighborhoods to be neighborhoods again. I know the transportation costs are doubled due to the schools of option but does anyone know if the schools of option are running us extra funds in other areas? The old motto is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it..." well we need a lot of fixing here and it needs to begin somewhere. No matter what budget is passed at any given time, there will be feelings hurt on either side, however we need to have people in place that can see the big picture and think on the terms of the greater good, not just the good of the elite! Now that I think about it, the BOE didn't cause this segregation, WE DID... in allowing this to happen in the first place and then continue on the way it has. Frustrating, to say the least!

SCATS said...

To 11:40AM ~~ You are most amusing! You quote State Ed Law back to me BUT this district has shown, repeatedly, that it has no use for policy, regulations or laws. If you don't believe me, just watch a BOE meeting ;)

FYI, I'm not "worked up" over anything. I know that the number of signatures required is 2% of the number who voted last time and I've said it before.

When you mention write-ins, I'm reminded that apathy reigns in this town, so organizing such a vote day "surprise" is pretty much a daydream.

SCATS said...

To 11:41PM ~~ I think it would be much more interesting to see the quandary on the BOE's faces IF enough opponents to West Ridge showed up (twice as many, let's say)to demand an end to the extra $1 million in bussing that we can't afford. WHAT WOULD THEY DO?

You're right about what WE DID. We did it two decades ago & have let it ride long enough.

Anonymous said...

To 11:40- Writing in the name of a surprise candidate could do what? So, if we were all to write SCATS on the blank space, does that mean we can get him/her elected if enough people do it? And then what would come of that... other than a real big news story (yet another one here in Greece) about the mystery blogging elected member? Hey, I may be on to something here- would that open enough eyes with the BOE and GTA that change needs to take place?

SCATS said...

To 2:50PM ~~ Thank you very much ...

I have a feeling the "change" you referred to would be that the BOE would immediately adopt a new policy to NOT allow me to attend their meetings with a bag over my head. (blushing)

Anonymous said...

I'm saying that if you all don't like who is running, then write in someone who you think can do the job better and/or different. That's all.

SCATS said...

To 3:40PM ~~ While I understand the point you're making, people need to remember that one person has next to no power on the BOE. It takes 5 (FIVE) votes to accomplish anything.

Anonymous said...

11:40 We can pick up petitions anytime after the last election. They cannot give a candidate only one month to get signatures. That could be discriminatory to a person that can't walk quickly from door to door and has to get the signatures himself. But that is not the reason. The only date that is specified is the turn-in date.
We used to be able to just make our own copy of the petition but they changed that and made us have to pick up and sign with the clerk. It used to be a real mystery but the PTB didn't like that as they could not plan and threaten.

SCATS said...

To 9:34 PM ~~ I remember when no one really knew who might turn in a petition. Oh the suspense of it all ;)

What is PTB?

Anonymous said...

powers that be....reigning board majority and administration.

SCATS said...

To 12:15AM ~~ Thank you for clarifying that.