Sunday, April 18, 2010

Monroe County Property Taxes Among US's Highest

NY's local taxes are 79% above the national average;
Levies grew 60% from 1995-2005, according to the Comptroller;
1.7 million people left New York between 2000 & July 2009.

School taxes accounted for 61% of all property taxes in 2007;
NY school staff grew by more than 12,000 between 2000 and 2007, even as enrollment declined by nearly 16,000 students.

"NY State spends more money per student than any state in the United States of America. So that would be great if we have the best results in the country, but we don't." ~~ Tom Suozzi

Article contains links to several related databases

SCATS ~~ I hope you read this Roger Boily, John Auberger, Joe Robach, Maggie Brooks, because it's YOU FOLKS WHO KEEP RAISING OUR TAXES!!


Charlie Hubbard said...

One thing is for sure with all the data out there.
More spending is NOT the answer to better education - PERIOD.

We know salaries/benefits (contracts) are the driving force of spending increases. When those contracts have no defined expectations attached to those salary and benefit increases we will continue to make national news and credible companies will avoid us like the plague.

But - who cares, with less than 10% of eligible voters voicing an opinion at budget time - who cares.

SCATS said...

To Charlie ~~ What amazes me most is that after reading through the numbers and realizing that we're awash with $$ in our local school district (or should be given lower enrollments) is that the kids still don't have all of the necessary and reasonably up-to-date textbooks, workbooks, etc. that are needed to help them learn!

Anonymous said...

When 74% of school district spending goes to support wages and benefits and most of the remaining 26% is spent on transportation, capital projects, debt service, district operating expenses, maintenance, etc, it leaves precious little money in the budget for such "trivial things" such as workbooks, textbooks, and the like "to help them learn." Having said that, is it not the job of the "education professionals" to make the decision as to just how many textbooks and workbooks might be essential to a quality education? Given that we have no shortage of educational professionals in the district, one might wonder exactly how they spend their time and energies determining how to provide a quality education. I contend there exist endless theories, schemes, and programs "out there" that supposedly would lead us to the "nirvana" of a quality education. None of these, it seems, have led to any significant positive result anywhere in the US of A. There has certainly been no shortage of taxpayer funds thrown at the problem. I wonder if the answer to better results might be found in simpler, and indeed, less costly reforms. Perhaps better discipline, an end to social promotion, a return to K-8 schools, an increased emphasis on reading skills, more time on task, more vocational education/training for students who are NOT college material, and establishment of high performance standards as an expectation for all students all come to mind. Many of these things have been applied in some schools around the nation, even in schools where the majority of students are poor and are ethnic/racial minorities, with astoundingly positive results!

Anonymous said...

Once again SCATS you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. But we all already know that so it's no surprise.You are a funny little man. Sorry about the restraining order taken against you. :(

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SCATS said...

BLOG Administration deleted 12:39AM's comment due to name-calling.

To 12:16AM ~~ What part do I have wrong? The part where I point out that our local politicians raise our property taxes causing Monroe County to repeatedly place near the top in the nation? Or the part about inadequate textbooks which are an annual complaint made by parents to the BOE?

PS ~~ There is no restraining order but thanks for believing in fairy tales authored by people with no credibility ;)

Charlie Hubbard said...

WELL SAID - you get a 93
Throw in mandatory accountability and you get a 99.

The best part of your posting is how 'there has been no shortage of public money thrown at this problem'.


Anonymous said...

OK, help me with this. We spend about $17,000 on each kids education each year. Figure an average class size of 25 kids. Thats $425,000 per class. Lets figure the teacher makes 40,000 + another 15,000 in whatever benefits you can come up with. Thats $55,000. Now my math might not be all that great - but thats no way near 74% of $425,000. OK - the Principal and Vice Principal need to be factored in, but thats still not even close to 74%. I'm thinking this is a BS stat. and the money is being hidden in some sort of shell game.

Anonymous said...

OK, help me with this. We spend about $17,000 on each kids education each year. Figure an average class size of 25 kids. Thats $425,000 per class. I'm thinking this is a BS stat. and the money is being hidden in some sort of shell game.

4/19/2010 4:45 PM

You're not factoring in support staff, athletic costs, pension costs, Union support costs, insurance costs, performence bonuses, left sock, desk drawer, bus fund, right sock, consultants, lawyers, greif counselors, other useless counselors, trash disposal, paper shredders, expensive trips to meetings and conventions, teacher education stipends, garbage removal, TV studios, Concert grand pianos, heat, light, electricity, paying contractors to fix what other contractors didn't do or did wrong, and one of my favorites, INSURANCE to cover possible injuries to students on school busses even though the insurance will not and can not pay under NY no fault law.

Then you have to cover the cost of all the brilliant administrators who spend all your money.

School District math is very clever. Screwing the taxpayer is an art.

SCATS said...

To 12:13AM ~~ Sadly, even your lengthy list omits textbooks ... among other things ... like lab equipment, library books, computers, workbooks, gym equipment, language labs .. etc.

Anonymous said...

The claim though is that 74% of the budget goes to salery.

If 74% went to people that actually went to working with the kids in the classroom, that would be one thing - but all these administrators, consultants, lawyers, assistants, etc.---- Thats where the cutting has to start!

SCATS said...

To 8:39AM ~~ I was being sarcastic and attempting to show that even that lengthy list failed to show any small amount that actually benefits the kids and their EDUCATION.