Tuesday, April 27, 2010

Moments of Revelation Mark BOE Session

   
  • Pat Tydings refused to answer/allow anyone to answer Dave Ferington's question: "Why did it take so long for the BOE's motion (April 2007) to be carried out in April 2010?"
  • BOE has many options to consider including: designating mileage limits for out-of-boundary bussing; limiting access to neighboring schools; only picking up students from home address; charging fees for out-of-boundary riders; imposing mileage limits on Pinebrook & WRidge buildings; using a central hub as a transfer point; targeting specific bldgs to reduce costs; using smallest possible buses; obtaining & implementing better software programs; improving databases
  • BOE told by consultants to consider: "What is the real or perceived benefit of schools-of-choice to families? What is the benefit (if any) on achievement?"
  • "What is the responsibility of the district to provide for the personal preferences for each and every parent in the district?" ~~ Pat Tydings
  • "Where does the district and BOE stand on schools-of-choice, signature schools and neighborhood schools?" ~~ Julia VanOrman ... Tydings wouldn't permit discussion of it.
  • BOE members stunned to learn that GCSD provides discretionary daycare transportation at great expense which could be eliminated legally
SCATS ~~ When we start considering reductions for next year's budget, we can begin by eliminating bussing to daycare! It's a no-brainer, especially for a BOE that continually whines about the need for "mandate relief."
 

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

I listened the to the meeting on the radio and was amazed at what a waste of almost three hours it was. Random discussions about daycare, schools of choice, signature schools, undefined options for transportation, a diatribe about longridge and daycare.
I have witnessed more structure at a three-year-old's birthday party at chuck-e-cheese.

Anonymous said...

Fire all the teachers and start over with a new contract that doesn't give them every benefit known to man/woman! Maybe they would appreciate what they have if they were in danger of losing it.

Anonymous said...

When I read what how several on this board react to real questions about this "go-where-you-want" district of ours, I get a vision of a 2 year old holding their breath, closing their eyes, sticking their fingers in their ears, trying not to hear what their parent is telling them.

Why is that?

SCATS said...

To 10:21PM ~~ Now you know why they never quite get around to discussing actual education.

Anonymous said...

10;21 makes a good point. after listening to this meeting i have no idea where the board stands. I was hoping to hear that this, this, and this are going to be eliminated next year giving time for parents to plan but nothing happened. What was the purpose?

Anonymous said...

Please bus me to my polling place.

I want to vote at Pinebrook; where do I apply?

Anonymous said...

This to me is the MOST telling point, which SCATS posted in the original post:

BOE told by consultants to consider: "What is the real or perceived benefit of schools-of-choice to families? What is the benefit (if any) on achievement?"

We taxpayers PAY to have consultants do a job that probably could have been done by a second grade class. We pay to have consultants point out the obvious to us. That's bad, but not nearly as bad as our board turning a blind eye to the consultant's points. This is what blatent special interests look like!

Anonymous said...

The board wants the community to approve the purchase of new busses. Now tell me they plan to "reduce" the number of busses needed.
All I heard last night was a bunch of posuring over and over with no decissions.
Scats; if you heard a decission about anything other than how we need to look at this more please tell us.

SCATS said...

To 11:05AM ~~ No, I did not hear any decision made. In fact, it sounded as if they had trouble deciding to continue to study the issue. Decision-making is not our BOE's strength.

To 10:21AM ~~ Just to clarify, the "(if any)" portion was my addition to the statement, thus the parentheses.

Anonymous said...

Special interests own the day care centers and those people are among members of the Rotary, Chamber and other power centers of corruption in Greece. So it is no wonder that the taxpayers are asked to "subsidize" their businesses by making them more attractive and affordable to working parents. Less than 1% of Greece controls virtually everything that happens here. This is what corruption and special interests gone out-of-control looks like. Gosh, I hope we didn't wake up any of the sheeple with this news.

Anonymous said...

SCATS, the "if any" really isn't important to my point. I think you probably realize that. The question is asked by the consultants, "what is the benefit on achievement?", be it a few benefits or one hundred different things that are beneficial. At this point I'd settle for hearing even one from the board.

SCATS said...

To 12:46PM ~~ I just wanted to clarify that so no one could claim I was misrepresenting what was said ;)

Anonymous said...

Suggestion to the BOE.

Come up with some alternative structures for the district.
1. End schools of choice, signature schools, secondary option and go back to neighborhood schools.
1(a). Change all elementary schools to k-5 and rezone with realistic walking distances.
1(b). Keep elementary schools as they are, k-2, 3-5 and rezone with realistic walking distances.

2. End signature schools, keep schools of choice, keep secondary option.

3. End signature schools, end schools of choice, keep secondary option.

4. Do nothing.

Create a budget for each scenario and let the public decide what they want. If the public is actually given some real options, the board will not actually have to make a decision.

SCATS said...

To 3:15PM ~~ Please provide us with your name so we may use it as a write-in vote when we head to the polls in mid-May! You've just accomplished much more on this issue than our BOE has in the last THREE YEARS since adopting their resolution on the matter.

Anonymous said...

How much does the Town pay for consultants? We have consultants doing everything from Joe Loszynski to the Dewey Avenue Traffic Calming Study.

Charlie Hubbard said...

Let me keep this simple and straight foward.
I asked the question about 3 years ago.
'What is the educational value to open enrollment, signature schools ect.'
Answer from administration; 'I doubt I can show one'.
Case closed

The taxpayers should feel violated and disrespected for their money being WAISTED bussing kids all over this district for no good reason.

Anonymous said...

The beat part of the suggestion by 3:15pm is that the budget comparisons can be done by our own district staff.
And I would be willing to bet that they could do this sort of comparison in the span of a month.

Anonymous said...

To 5:00, as far as I'm concerned a penny paid to any consultant group is too much if the board doesn't bother to listen to the advice.

Anonymous said...

Save money by getting rid of GTA release time. You know why they won't? Because the district never challenges the union and always bends to the GTA's demmands. How about all of the GTA union release days that the district pays for... what do GTA members do on a union release day? Probably whatever they want to do, no one is watching them. Get rid of it all!

Anonymous said...

As discussed in this blog on several occasions, district enrollment has dropped by @10% or so over the last few years. This is equal to the enrollment of one or two schools. Yet - we still have all of our schools open. Keeping unnecessary buildings open is expensive and wasteful.

The money saved by closing buildings can be used to 1. Maintain quality in the buildings that remain open. and/or 2. Reduce the tax rate for the owners of the district.

To be clear: The lack of planning and vision by administration and the board is effecting quality of our schools and value per dollar of the taxpayer.

While redistricting may be unpleasant, it is the right thing to do. The sooner we redistrict, the sooner the community can reap the benefits of maintained quality and value per tax dollar spent.