Saturday, March 06, 2010

What Do We Expect From A New Supt?

 
Does anyone know? I was shocked to learn that GCSD is advertising to fill this position, BUT the specific goals, expectations, improvements & timelines required of the candidate haven't been drawn up yet! How can we attract the "right candidate" if we don't know what we're looking for?
  

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

SCATS

Why should the lack of printed goals for the Supt. search be of any surprise to you?

It has never bothered former Greece BOE from Phelan to Boily to have BOE goals or to write goals for the BOE or for their particular school Supt.

That does not mean there are not goals. It just means they are kept private and change to suit their own political needs and situations.

This BOE and other allow the Supt. to write their own annual goals and to write their own year end evaluation.

Goals and objective in the last 12 years are not much of a priority.

I stand corrected again. I am so sorry.I forgot:
"Greece Central Where Student Learning Is The Goal"

Sincerely

Doug Skeet

Anonymous said...

I have heard that before Walts came along, Greece was a district to be proud of. What was different then? Who were the superintendents before him, and what did they do to make it a positive choice to come and be a student or teacher in the town of Greece? I would be interested to hear from students, teachers, and community members or BOE members that know what happened then to make us a town to be envied.

Anonymous said...

Hello?! I'm right here! Can't I just be appointed Superintendent?

I know how to work exceptionally well without goals, be chummy with my executive peers, properly "motivate" pesky subordinates, speak in ways that protect the district from being held accountable and maintain a status quo so we don't waste money bringing in a whole new leadership team.

I could even save the district a lot of money by combining the two Assistant Supt's of Instruction back into a single position. Of course she would have to make more money than she does now, but think of the cost savings of eliminating one whole position!

I'm the perfect candidate! Yoo-hoo! Here I am!

-A

SCATS said...

To Doug ~~ Perhaps I misspoke ... I'm not surprised really. But I am disappointed, deeply disappointed.

To 9:33AM ~~ I think that one thing that was different & better back then was we produced something called the Comprehensive Assessment Report (CAR report) each & every year. In a certain way, I think (in retrospect) it made our teachers & principals more accountable than the current NY State statistics can or do. Dr. Ken Graham (now Supt. in Rush-Henrietta) knew exactly which teachers were producing results, or not. It was possible to track student progress longitudinally by looking at the data in that book every yr. The impact of high employee turnover in a building and other factors was "visible" for all to see.

To 9:38AM ~~ You sound almost too good to be true!

Anonymous said...

I think we can expect one thing from the new super, if nothing else: he/she will have two tails, and they will look alot like the BLOB and McCabe from the shoulders down. Have you ever seen baby piglets fighting to get a good position to milk from mom...stay tuned.

Anonymous said...

I think we can expect one thing from the new super, if nothing else: he/she will have two tails, and they will look alot like the BLOB and McCabe from the shoulders down. Have you ever seen baby piglets fighting to get a good position to milk from mom...stay tuned.

Anonymous said...

Good to see SCATS is allowing name-calling again. This site was getting boring!

SCATS said...

To 3:52PM ~~ I'm so glad to see you are continuing to monitor this BLOG, almost on a minute-by-minute basis even ;) It looks like you're watching more closely than I am!

Unless you are referring to
3:33PM's use of the term "the BLOB" I have no idea what name-calling you mean. Since 3:33PM didn't say who that name was directed towards, technically it's kind of difficult to judge it as actual name-calling. But thanks for checking in and for keeping on top of MY job ;)

Anonymous said...

To: 9:33 AM

The best Greece teachers were selected to write and pilot Greece Central's curriculum. Becasue it was written in Greece there was ownership. It was implemented as it was designed.

Our curriculum was different than today. We had measurable objectivess for each course ie: 90%of the students will be able to divide a three number dividend by a two number divider. It was clear to everyone what was expected.

We had "District Wide" curriculum that each building had to implement. How we implemented it was up to each building. We could use different text books, different teaching methods and no one from district office would dictate the "How" to the buildings. Make no mistake though we were held responsible for the test results.

We had supervision. Prinicpals had monthly meetings with his/her supervisor to discuss building operations including supervision of staff, curr., test results, budget. There was clear communication and expectations.

Our test scores were always above average to like school districts. We were not at the top in the county. Brighton, Pittsford, Penfield and some other east side school districts scored higher than we did but we ALWAYS score either at the bottom of the top third of Monroe County (5 or 6)or the top of the middle third of the school districts (7 or 8).

The BOE terms was for 5 years. Quality individuals from industry was on Greece Central's school board. They had a broad view point of education not their personal agendas. When it was changed to three years, personal issues from the BOE members were a priority in the district.

We had a staff development program second to none in NYS. Teachers from other districts paid tuition to attend summer courses in Greece Central. Staff development in Greece was required for Greece Teachers and Administration.

Most, not all, promotions came from within Greece Central. At district office you knew and generally respected the individuals promoted. They had years of teaching experience in Greece and you could speak and discuss issues openly without fear of losing your job. Individuals in supervision position at district office in math, sci, English or Asst. Supt., or Supt. had 15-25 years experience in Greece. You knew them. Some Supt. from within Greece Central were David Robinson, John Yageliekski(sp), Ray Page, interim Supt. Bob Fitzgibbon, George Kisha. They were experienced in Greece. They lived in Greece. They were proud to be a Supt. in Greece. We had roots and tradition.

Parents were more involved with their child's education. Parents would demand quality instruction and teachers in the buildings. PTA's were very active in Greece. PTA leaders would speak at BOE meetings and building's had active units.

Just some thoughts off the top.

Sincerely

Doug Skeet

SCATS said...

To Doug ~~ I'm curious to know, about when was the term for BOE members shortened to 3 yrs. from 5? I don't recall 5 yrs. going as far back as the mid to late 80's, so I'm just curious. I think you made some great points ... though I disagree about PTA's involvement aside from fundraising and doing GTA's bidding for them.

An Athletic Supporter said...

Greece Schools: Basketball's Section V, AA1 and A1 Champions.

Not the "top of the middle third" or the "bottom of the top third"; BEST of the BEST in comparison with "like schools".

How do you motivate students to deliver those sorts of results? Study THAT, Educatti.

SCATS said...

To 7:14AM ~~ I like the way you made that point. A very good question. I bet no one will answer ;)

An Athletic Supporter said...

Oops. I goofed in my hopes for greatness in Greece. It was Rush-Henrietta with the AA1 championship. I guess that makes my entire point moot (to some).

Anonymous said...

SCATS

When we had Gordon Fisk, John Woods and Wilho Salaman on the BOE. It had to be in the late 60's or early 70's we still had 5 year BOE terms.

I am sorry you have the attitude you do about the PTA's. That maybe the way they are now but the PTA's in the 70's/ early 80's were very active and productive for education. They would hire educational speakers for the buildings and district wide meetings. In the buildings they would volunteer to supervise in the cafe, run the copy machine, room mothers, chaperone fieldtrips, activity nights, chaperone the four day Washington trip.

Did they fund raise? Yes! I NEVER allow students to go door to door to raise funds for the adults. Never. Adults had to raise money themselves. My eight graders, on a volunteer basis, could raise money by magazines sales for their own account for the Washington trip. That was it.

Enjoy

Dpoug

Anonymous said...

Doug at 6:30

Even during the 90's we also did all those wonderful things through the PTA at the elementary schools except for the trip. Besides that we also raised at least 25 grand gross per year to assist the school building in their budget. We would "donate" the money to the school through the laundry system of a board meeting. Of course the donation would be accepted. That was how we handled the little glitch that the PTA national frowned on such fundraising by the units. They knew it was going on and said if we spent the money on our own we could lose our affiliation with national and thus lose our insurance and tax exempt status. So it was funneled into the school's bank account. Then the "school" would buy the computer equipment, pay for visiting artists, use the money for field trips, library books, signs in front of the schools etc. It was an unspoken status symbol among the elementary PTA's who could raise the most money. We would have strategy sessions at the PTA council meetings to see how we could keep doing the fund raising and still retain our tax free status. "Make sure you have that annual meeting and send in your charities report to the state".
And the children went from door to door and still do. ( The gross take must be more now). Of course there is a disclaimer in all the promotion literature that "we do not condone door to door sales by the students".
Present day...Elementary PTA's are still doing fundraising big time. Middle schools still do not do so many fundraisers through the PTA. The fund raisers for the trips are handled by the teachers and the students receive directly the profits from their own sales. The big money funds there and at the high schools are raised by the music and sports boosters' "not for profit" organizations.
At that secondary level the PTA's are just representatives for the parents and a liaison for the administration and district with the parents. (maybe that's what they should be everywhere?)
So please do not warmly look askance at Scats' view of the PTA in Greece. They are pawns for the system and love every minute of it.

Anonymous said...

The pta has been taken over (some time ago) by the school of choice parents.
The comment in the paper by the pta president (school of choice parent) speaks loud and clear - suck it up community and pay more.
It is everyone elses problem just leave MY kids school alone.