Wednesday, March 31, 2010

"No concessions" ~ NYSUT Pres. Richard Iannuzzi

  
He characterizes the suggestion that teachers voluntarily forego raises as "Grandstanding."

Teachers are learning Economic Reality 101

SCATS ~~ An interesting read for anyone who wants a clear-cut view of how the teacher's union responds to economic times that foist real world troubles like layoffs in their direction.

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

Normally you have a position on issues but are surprisingly coy about asking teachers to forgo salary increases SCATS. So where do you stand? Do you think teachers should forgo raises, or even possibly take a pay cut?

Anonymous said...

BTW SCATS, you probably saw it but RJ shut people out from making comments on her site. She also claims you are being served with a restraining order. Did you really do something or is she acting crazy again?

Anonymous said...

She must have an active imagination if she thinks a restraining order can be ordered on an anonymous blogger. And they are called "orders of protection" around these parts and are only attached to a criminal charge such as harassment or trespass or assault. You just cannot request such an order. And it is not "served" but part of a court proceeding where the accused is present. And whoever RJ is, she should grow up and stop trying to be so important. She might have a lot of cats in Springfield.

Anonymous said...

What is an RJ site

Anonymous said...

No concessions, then more cuts. Any thing more than a zero property tax increase will mean a defeated budget. And a contingency budget with anything other than a zero prperty tax increase will result in one hell-of-a tea party!

SCATS said...

To 10:46AM ~~ Do you like your tea with lemon? I do. I'll bring extra!

Anonymous said...

Oh please let's not promote her site even though she could use it. The way she set it up, her account is the ony one who can possibly comment but the anonymous comments are still rolling in. Which just proves the theory that she was supplying most of the comments herself. Before any supporters try to argue, this is not an opinion but fact. Fact: The way her blog is set up only the blog owner has the option to post anonymously or by just typing in a name without linking it to a google account. Fact: After the restrictions were put in place, anonymous and non-google account comments were posted. Ergo: RJ is the one leaving those comments.

Now on to the actual topic of this post: should teachers relinquish their raises? Probably. But I wouldn't just decide not to take a raise to help my boss out. That being said, if it was a choice between no raise or no job, I might think differently.

Anonymous said...

Here's how a group of people who cared about the community and had the stones would handle the GTA.

Propose a budget that reduced the number of teaching poistions such that the savings was equal to any salary and benefit increase. If that means closing schools or doing away with football or class sizes of 35 kids each, so be it.

Explain to the community at large that, in the situation we find ourselves, the only way to hold down costs and not drastically increase taxes is to reduce dollars spent on salary and benefits. Since the GTA et al refuse to offer any meaningful concessions, little Johnny and little Janie have to try and learn in room with 35 other kids, can't play football, and have to walk 2 miles to school.

Why does the board continue to kowtow to the unions whose bad faith force the "difficult decisions" the board is faced with.

Someone needs to stand up and tell it like is.

Anonymous said...

You're absolutely right 1:59pm. The blame lies with GTA, but the school board won't make them responsible. The board can't stand to hear anyone cry for the cameras. DYSFUNCTIONAL!!!!!

Anonymous said...

"She must have an active imagination if she thinks a restraining order can be ordered on an anonymous blogger"

Actually she referred to SCATS as "he" so I'm assuming she knows him. Either way, she's off her rocker.

Anonymous said...

I keep reading about 60 teaching and support staff jobs being cut. How many administration jobs are being cut? Can anyone from the BOE or the Supt Office give us a real number?

Anonymous said...

There is no way in hell I would take a pay cut if I were a teacher. They are hit, spit on, kicked and verbally abused by both students and parents. There is not enough money to make teaching a "good job" these days.

Anonymous said...

To 8:32pm

reasonable people are simply asking them to forego their raises, not take a pay cut.

How many of us in the real world have been asked to do the same for the past few years?

If it really were "all about the kids" wouldn't they be willing to help just a little, instead of always talking about what everyone else needs to give up.

GTA salary and benefits account for more than 50% of the budget. There can be no realistic saving without addressing that portion of the budget.

SCATS said...

To 8:32PM ~~ If that's actually happening in the classroom, then why isn't GTA leadership screaming about it in the BOE meeting room, telling the press, and making it a "squeeky wheel" the same way he is making the stalled contract negotiations?? If he's not talking about it then maybe it's not a priority ;)

Anonymous said...

From the article:
Ken-Ton Superintendent Mark P. Mondanaro announced recently that he was returning his $7,000, or 4 percent, raise as a show of faith.

Leadership starts from the top down...
Give backs and cuts from the top down would perhaps make others more willing to also give back.

BTW- what other unions have agreed to a give back?

Anonymous said...

@10:16 - Good point SCATS. If it's true, we would have heard about it. As you know, I'm a big fan of offering proof when you wanna make an accusation. Same applies here. Don't make a claim if you can't offer facts to back it up. That goes for everyone and anyone. Proof first, then I'll believe you.

SCATS said...

To 9:54AM ~~ You've missed the point ... probably because getting the point isn't your objective. If you don't like this BLOG, take it elsewhere, create your own or get a different hobby where you can employ your own reality.

Anonymous said...

Do you people have any idea what goes on in a classroom these days, especially a Special Ed. class? It is unbelievable what these teachers and aides have to put up with. These teachers should have hazzard pay! Even regular classrooms are bad because so many kids that should be in "special" classes are in regular classes because their parents want them to be treated like "regular" kids. How would you like to try to teach 25/30 kids who are all different in different ways to try to make them learn. It's insane!

SCATS said...

To 8:40PM ~~ Whenever someone uses a phrase like "you people" I immediately go into defensive mode. You are casting judgment, aren't you? Well then, I think that gives me the right to cast judgment right back at you in response to your question: "How would you like to try to teach 25/30 kids who are all different in different ways to try to make them learn."

If I'm not mistaken, ALL children are expected to be DIFFERENT because as human beings they are all unique. Therefore, as highly trained professionals in possession of those advanced college degrees, I expect YOU PEOPLE (teachers) to be able to do the job we pay you ... and pay your tuition ... to do!

Anonymous said...

Scats; great response!!!

SCATS said...

To 7:02AM ~~ Thanks :)