Friday, February 26, 2010

Who Can Tell Us About Transportation Costs?

 
This topic keeps appearing on various threads. Now it's appeared in my mailbox, too.

"I am almost certain at least one regular reader of the blog in particular has knowledge of the GCSD bussing routes, and how they've multiplied over the years, including precise figures. I'm not sure why he/she hasn't jumped on the topic when it's been brought up. My thinking is that it's usually toward the end of the comments, and perhaps they have moved on to newer material. I wonder if the topic was to make it on the blog as a new story/topic, if this person might be more likely to see it, and in turn comment about it. I think readers would be blown away to see just how many routes have been added over the last 10-15 years, especially given the drop in student numbers."

SCATS ~~ I hope someone can give us some insight using numbers. I'm sure someone knows ... please speak up!
  

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

The road to righteousness in the Greece Central School District is littered with the cadavers of people who attempted to "right" the "wrongs" of the past by bringing such information into the daylight.

It didn't matter if you were a 30-year employee with an exemplary record or a 10-month newcomer with fresh eyes to observe and report the obvious; the facts that you uncover would/will be twisted to make it appear that you are the problem.

If you are ID'd by your comments here, you will be targeted and bullied (at the very least) and will eventually lose your job through fraudulent repackaging of facts and Machiavellian HR tactics.

Don't expect the Board of Education to come to your rescue. They will "drink the Kool-aid" that HR puts in front of them and vote in agreement with Administration without so much as in independent interview or inquiry of their own. Even the "mighty" Charlie Hubbard and Joe Moscato did so after promising to "be there" for people who were willing to stand on their own. Today's BoE is so inbred with the still-in-power ex-Keller-Cogan crowd that it continues even today.

Those of us with inside knowledge must measure our words carefully; often remaining silent despite having potentially incendiary knowledge. The 'hotline' can't be used for these sorts of things.

How's that "Toxic Culture" thing working? Very well, thank you. Don't expect insiders to freely feed you information. You have nothing to lose. We have plenty.

Anonymous said...

Who can tell us what it is going to cost the district to move the third floor district people into the Kodak offices this summer? It may just be a rumor, but...

Charlie Hubbard said...

The cost of course is important but our transportation situation is indicative of a bigger problem.
Some of us tried and tried to get some sanity into the 'amount' of transportation. The latest roadblock thrown up IS the type of deeprooted problem we are in today. We get 69% of transportation costs paid for by the state - so it's OK - it's almost free - so it's OK.

It is THAT type of thinking and conduct that permiates thruout public education. The idea that Albany allows this type of waste demostrates THEIR incompetence.

Wheather it is transportation or contracts or the number of buildings we run we MUST begin to demand answer to one question first and foremost.

Is it educationally beneficial?

Are we in the transpotation business or the education business.
Unfortunately that takes leadership and backbone - yes we need some people who are willing to prioritize how our money being spent instead of looking at how much $$ we think the community will support unless our goal is to imitate Albany.

Anonymous said...

In response to 8:23 am - Very well written and 100% true. Everything you have described is still continuing to happen. This is happening right now to a close friend of mine. Just read your Board docs from this past summer to now. It is all contained in there. And yes this has everything to do with the latest EEOC case that has been referenced on this site.

Anonymous said...

State aid is free: I pay no state income tax; all I buy is food so I pay no sales tax; and I get reduced property tax as well. That is why some of us really don't give a damn.

Besides, I like having all those busses drive down my streeet all day. It is for the kids and for the parents who don't want to take care of their kids all day. Some of them want pre school to start at age 2. Go for it; state money will pay for it.

SCATS said...

To Charlie ~~ We are in the sports, music & drama business, as evidenced by the fact we are willing to cut teachers, make classes even larger, eliminate electives & AP offerings ... but sports & music still haven't been touched hard enough to be felt. There will always be plenty of "free" drama in the board room as long as we continue on the path we've chosen.

SCATS said...

To 8:23AM ~~ If I were to offer to rewrite any documents or other submissions you or others provide to me via email, do you think you could still be ID'd? Let me know if you're interested.

SCATS said...

To 9:33AM ~~ I assume you are referring to the case at Athena? It has been discussed openly and briefly a few times. More recently, it has been referenced as though it is an ongoing secret. I didn't realize it was still that same case comments mentioned.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone shed some insight as to why a small Greece school bus would have a stop in the RCSD?

Anonymous said...

Is that Charley Hubbard that writes on here related to that George Hubbard that used to be on the school board?

He was a hoot. Lots of data but no ability to get anything done. I think he was trained by that Mueller guy who used to be on the board back in the 80's.

Anonymous said...

I thought the finance committee was working on that bus study. Any feed back from them?

Anonymous said...

11:14 - to deliver or pick-up a special needs student.

Anonymous said...

11:48: "Lots of data but no ability to get anything done"

Given the way you described him, it seems we both agree that his "data" was correct more often than not. Perhaps rather than the back-handed compliment, you should look to the BOE majority and Superintendent during G. Hubbard's term. A "hoot"? Yes I agree. But it's also a fact that if he wasn't shut down and out voted on everything he stood for, this district would be light years from where it stands today. I would gladly take any nine BOE members like him (regardless of what they believe), that are able back up thoughts with statistics or "data", and then stand by it. It's called a backbone 11:48, and it's something this BOE is totally absent of. Instead we are the product of a Phelan, Russell, Waltz, ect. run BOE during Hubbard's run... ENJOY!

Anonymous said...

We spend $12 million on transportation costs.

As far as one person trying to accomplish anything on that board or this board, it's like banging your head against a stone wall. When politics arrived on the school board (via Boily) all the good work that had been accomplished in the preceding year, was totally and completely washed down the drain.

There used to be intelligent, knowledgable people on the board who knew State Education Law, Roberts Rules of Order and all the factual financial data necessary to be a good board member. Now we elect politicians who can raise the most money to spend on a campaign. The same problem we have with our Federal, State and local governments has now reared its ugly head on the school board.

What we get are a bunch of no-nothings who pander to anyone who complains, i.e., booster clubs, schools of choice parents, etc. It's all about public relations and civility. They are all trying to be nicey nicey instead of standing up for quality education.

Anonymous said...

I believe that cost has about doubled in the last 10 years for 1500 fewer kids

SCATS said...

To 8:34AM ~~ Can you tell us more? Doubled from what to what? I am aware we've lost enrollment of some 2000 students. Are you saying 1500 were in the last decade and the others came before that? Thank you for clarifying :)

Anonymous said...

As a parent of a student who attends a school of choice, I would also like to know what the costs of the current system are.
How do we figure this out? How can we not know?

Anonymous said...

I am the parent of a school of choice student and would love to know what the additional costs of the current structure are.