Thursday, December 31, 2009

Good Riddance To A Decade Of Scandals & Controversy


Steve Walts
Charles Schwab
Greece Police Dept.

Leaked Audit Report

John Niccolo


Nick Joseph

Meg Keller-Cogan

Skip Beaver

Tub 'N Tan

Gary Pignato

Carolyn Hauer's Email Blooper

Coach Webb

Mall Curfew

Maggie's FAIR Plan

Gov. Spitzer

EEOC Lawsuits

Merritt Rahn


School Supply Stimulus Checks

Josephine Kehoe

John Auberger

Greece Democrats

* A noncomprehensive listing
(Is it any wonder Greece residents have tuned out?)

Anonymous said...

Come on, Folks. This is Greece. An embarrassment to anyone with a reasonable IQ and a clear thought process.* Well we are the victims of a corrupt town government, a corrupt county government and a totally incompetent state government. So if it wasn't for either the job or the kids living here, 90% of the town would bail out. Nice going town leaders, service clubs, Chamber and BOE! You have only taken 10 years to destroy what took 150 years to create. RIP. 
12/31/2009 7:46 PM

*Posting edited at author's request


Anonymous said...

And as the song says, "We've only just begun" to ask questions.

Who is changing the zoning on individual parcels in Greece to make bank foreclosures more profitable? One day it's residential with a special use permit, and the next it's commercial. How much did the bank pay who?

Is your house assessed more than $100,000? The old Odenbach shipyard isn't. Who made that deal with the estate of Louis Atkin?

Greece is still being sold bit by bit if you know who to pay.

Anonymous said...

Repeating my post from the earlier blog item


inscription on the gates of hell
Dante-- the inferno

Could you be even more cryptic regarding this zoning issue?

Anonymous said...

It is worth noting, to all of Greece, that Pine Brook Elementary School raised $4770 to be able to send 10 WWII veterans to Washington D.C. Congratulation to the students, parents and staff of Pine Brook.

I think that project is truly outstanding. Hopefully one or more of the veterans will go to Pinebrook and talk to the students about their WWII experience.

Happy New Year to all.

Doug Skeet

SCATS said...

To Doug ~~ I agree that Honor Flight is one of the best organizations (my opinion) to do fundraising for. Having said that, I'm just not sure that our elementary students should be absorbed with raising $$thousands in school. I'd prefer to see older students who COME UP WITH THE IDEA THEMSELVES do this. It's only charity if it isn't "required."

Anonymous said...

What's wrong with the mall curfew? Are we talking about civil rights?
Especially that 18 year olds are banned. There is a precedent for refusing participation of minors if not accompanied by parent or guardian but 18 means you can vote and you are legally not a minor. Funny that no one has challenged this. Or is it that no one is enforcing it ?

SCATS said...

To 12:08PM ~~ Nothing is "wrong" with the mall curfew IMHO. It's on the list because it is a controversial subject.

Anonymous said...


For me it is the "teaching" of charity for elementary students that is the important issue. With $4770 raised, this was a project that the staff and parents really got behind and the students would learn the importance of veterans.

In addition, in the PC Greece Central to see a Greece Elementary School doing something for the veterans is just great. This would not have been done with Steve/Meg.
Maybe, just maybe, this is a start to a different Greece Central to the positive.

Doug Skeet

SCATS said...

To Doug ~~ How do you "teach charity?" In my opinion, charity comes from a feeling of wanting to contribute to others based upon a sense of compassion, etc. You can't teach emotions, but the adults can model the behavior and discuss why they give. If that was what our schools did, it might be more palatable, but we both know it goes far beyond that.

The cash raised by Pinebrook amounts to about $10/student which sounds really great on the surface. I suspect the reality is that it was NOT the students' own money that comprised the bulk of those "donations." How many Kindergartners do you know with an extra $10 in their pocket? Are they giving up their lunch money?? Do we really want them to do that? I think not!

I also take issue with the use of school time for such projects. I continually hear complaints about all of the "unfunded mandates" that eat up the school day. This is not mandated but does require school time to accomplish ;)

Anonymous said...

I'm sure coach Webb is hurt by your mention. He'll just have to console himself with a State Championship and his plaque for being voted Coach of the Year in New York State.

SCATS said...

To 2:23PM ~~ Actually, Coach Webb might be hurt by it, since he showed true remorse for dropping the puck and potentially risking the students he was responsible for. Very sadly, it's the PARENTS of the team members who will resist learning from this experience and who have taught their children that winning at any cost is ALL that matters.

SCATS said...

Doug ~~ I have another question for you ... recently, I was criticized for the mere suggestion that Olympia HS admin. & teachers should put out a message to their students about the risks to students who attempt to cross I-390on foot after school. The echo I heard was that these kinds of things are NOT the school's job, but the parents' job. Given that, how does it become the school's job to "teach charity" to students when it's not their job to teach safety & common sense? As a former administrator and teacher, any light you can shed on this would be most appreciated :) I'm feeling VERY confused.

Charlie Hubbard said...

I can understand the concern about the charity part but if these kids are being taught respect for these vets and what they did for 'us' thats good enough for me.
Brovo to the people at Pinebrook.

SCATS said...

To Charlie ~~ I agree with you BUT that's a very big "IF" ... how do we know they learned that? How do we know they are even able to verbalize what the Honor Flight program is all about or anything about WW II? Since we're dealing with Greece schools, I highly suspect that we don't.

Charlie Hubbard said...

to Scats 7:15
Unfortunately based on what I have seen you are probably right and that is truly sad.

Our kids are coming out of school unprepared to deal with the 'real' world where accountability counts.
They may be ok to fit into the 'entitlement society'.

Anonymous said...

Oh wait! I can answer this one!

I can run a study! Yeah! I can do that! Can I? Please?

I have done so many of them I'm really really good at it.


SCATS said...

To Charlie ~~ Speaking of coming out of school ready for entitlements ... I spoke to a couple recently who mentioned that a large group of students (including one of their kids) who graduated from one of Greece's high schools around 5 years back got together for a quasi "class reunion" over the holidays. I'm told around 50 students attended (word was put out through MySpace). Guess what? Of the attendees, just three had any sort of fulltime employment! Of those, one is in the military as a career, one is in law enforcement and one actually works for a large company. I'll bet you can't guess which Greece HS they graduated from? The other students are mostly either working part-time jobs (many in retail and restaurants) or living off mom & dad's generosity. This includes a few married couples.

Anonymous said...


Come on, since when do you take criticism, of you,ly on your site seriously.

Secondly just because someone criticizes what makes that person right and you wrong?

As in most cases or issues the situation is not all white or black, ther are many shades of grey. It is never all the school's job or the home's responsibility or the student' responsibility but is always a combination of all three the school, the home and the student working together for individual growth and success.

Doug Skeet

SCATS said...

To Doug ~~ Re: "Secondly just because someone criticizes what makes that person right and you wrong?"

Me wrong!? :D

Anonymous said...

This should be remnamed the SCATS, Charlie, and Doug show!

SCATS said...

To 11:21AM ~~ Your comment is one of half a dozen on this thread that doesn't fit "the SCATS, Charlie, and Doug show" designation. Thanks for sharing ;)

Anonymous said...

You may have more opportunity to criticize the "naughts" decade. The decade is not over until 12/31/2010. You must have a Greece high school education or you'd know that.

SCATS said...

To 2:16PM ~~ I was waiting for someone to make this claim ;) No, I was NOT educated by GCSD, thank God.

Regarding the decade that just ended ... by definition, a decade is ANY 10 year period. When we talk in terms of decades gone by, we speak in terms of the '50's, the '70's, the '90's, etc. We reference decades cardinally but centuries ordinally. That's where your confusion lies ;)

The "naughts" or whatever they decide to formally call it have ended with 2009's demise.

Anonymous said...

Just reading your list of problems that to relate to GCSD it makes me wonder how the District gets themselves into them in the first place. GCSD School Board President Tydings is an attorney that specializes in Education Law. Why does he not speak up when he sees that something is wrong?

Anonymous said...

I know it is a new decade but you could have crossed out the Stupidintendant Achromovitch's name a little early since the board decided in the summer that he will not be given a new contract.

SCATS said...

To 9:26AM ~~ Perhaps it's because his spouse works for the district & his children enjoy schools-of-choice? Everything comes with a pricetag, you know?

To 9:28AM ~~ The Supt. may not actually be "history" ... only time will tell. If Boily gets a couple more puppet people elected in May, he could potentially have enough votes on the BOE to keep Steve around.

Anonymous said... are dead wrong on the Stupidintendent. My sources told me that he announced his retirement today:)

SCATS said...

To 1:02PM ~~ Me wrong? I called him a lame duck months ago ;) It was a matter of the BOE getting the nerve to deal with this problem ... or not. Politics is ALWAYS part of the mix these days.