Tuesday, September 01, 2009

Greece Teachers March For New Contract


“I think the thing that's really problematic here is that we pay at the high end of Monroe County teachers currently with our healthcare, and what we'd like to see is us maintaining that-- but in a way that would also save the district money. We've given them proposals that would save them upwards of half a million dollars the first year. Had they settled three years ago, they would have a half million dollars on the table.”” ~~ Don Pallozzi, GTA Pres.

"We are very proud of our teachers and support the work they do on behalf of students. Our district leadership has been working with GTA to resolve the contract, although under the law teacher contracts never really expire. Our teachers continue to receive all the benefits afforded to them in their previous contract including 90% paid health coverage and tuition reimbursement. Most GTA members also continue to receive annual raises which average 4%. Only those teachers on the top tier of the salary schedule (those earning $83,000 a year) do not receive raises when a contract is unresolved.We welcome continued negotiations with GTA as we work to settle this contract in a way to support our teachers but that also recognizes our current economic condition." ~~ Supt. Achramovitch

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SCATS ~~ I think the thing that's problematic here is that TV time was given to a teacher who believes getting the taxpayers to pay most of their health care will save us money.

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

Maybe that is taught in the "math connections" syllabus. When you pay a higher percentage of something it costs less. What a miracle. Obama should be informed.

Anonymous said...

The superintendent's comment is refreshing. This is the first time one of our supers has responded and so clearly. Thanksyou Steve 2.
They do have a contract with 90% of the healthcare insurance covered and built in raises. Stop complaining. We don't care about your greed, teachers.

Charlie Hubbard said...

Isn't it interesting how not one person mentioned 'improvment of educational outcomes' as one of the objectives.

I will openly say Mr. Pollozi's comments about 'thier' proposal saving half a million dollars is nothing but pure garbage.

ENTITLEMENTS on steroids!!!!!

chubbard005@rochester.rr.com
775-6015

SCATS said...

To 2:10PM ~~ Thanks for the heads up about the Super's response ;)

Anonymous said...

The GTA is yet another example of corruption in the Town of Greece.

Anonymous said...

4:26- They work here, but not so many live here.

Anonymous said...

Try changing leadership of GTA. When the President endorses political candidates (Moscato) without asking membership-it times to leave or join his buddy Adam U. in the city!

Anonymous said...

Sooo, they still get 4% raises every year and 90% of their health insurance covered and their argument is what exactly? Moscato accepting their supposed endorsement was not a very smart move. I question whether he supports their efforts. I can't tell from the picture but does anyone know if the other GTA union candidates were there too demanding more money and benefits?

SCATS said...

To 4:58PM ~~ You raise a very good question about participation in the protest by the two candidates. I would like to hear it straight from them.

Anonymous said...

The unions live in La La land. Name one single private company in Monroe County that has the same number of employees who pay 90% of their health care??????? I bet there is not a one!

The GTA also does not tell you that EACH teacher gets an annual payment of over $1000 to use as they wish for "additional" medical expenses. So, for the most part they pay ZERO for health care.

And this all started with the 1989 teacher contract from hell which gave the union all of the benefits they enjoy today. This 1989 contract followed on the heels of the Rochester Teacher Union contract in 1987 which gave teachers almost a 50% raise over a 5 yr period. Like dummies, our Super and school board at the time followed suit. We will pay for this 1989 union contract FOREVER. There is no way in hell the teacher's union will EVER give back ANYTHING unless they get something in return. The union does not give a rat's rear end about the kids or our school district. It is all abou the money honey.

Anonymous said...

4:28 PM - Why would they want to live here?

Anonymous said...

union bashing is a bad idea

Anonymous said...

7:11 Yup. You're right. I've heard some Greece teachers say they wouldn't send their kids to a Greece school. We pay them well, but they don't show it with outcomes. Our money talks the talk but the employees don't walk the walk.

Anonymous said...

I think it is about time that the administration stood up to Mr. Palozzi and his double talk. Are you serious he basically said they are currently benefiting from their insurance being paid on the high end and would like that to continue. So they basically aren't willing to accept anything else. Even though other unions in the district have entered contracts where they are responsible for paying more of their insurance. Plus they are still receiving raises every year so what the heck is wrong with this picture. The Superintendent is doing the right thing by not letting them having it their way or no way. The economy no longer can allow this the teachers like so many others need to be realistic and make concessions. Don't expect sympathy from all those taxpayers driving down long pond because your still getting a raise and still only have to pay 10% of your insurance when so many of us driving by have either lost our jobs or no longer have ANY insurance let alone all of it payed for. You made spectacles of yourselves and slapped alot of us taxpayers in the face...poor you , not a chance! I bet so many never knew how good you really had it. I found it refreshing for the district to finally come out and tell it like it is for once. Maybe this year holds potential for a smidgen of positive change. least Steve is finally looking out for our tax dollars. I dont usually agree with him but he has my support this time.

Anonymous said...

@7:31, why don't you enlighten us as to exactly why you made this statement.

Listen, this isn't union bashing friend. This is about OUR TAXDOLLARS being spent for already lucrative pay and benefits and GTA's demand for more. Mr. Hubbard nailed it. How do you save monet by spending more to meet GTA demands?

It was said before - 4% increases every year and 90+% of your health coverage paid for by us and you're whining! Name a private sector job that comes remotely close. Oh, and don't seek support from those who don't even have a job right now.

You will find no sympathy here.

Anonymous said...

"union bashing is a bad idea"

Is that a threat? If so, you're kidding right? Are we supposed to be afraid?

Don't make us laugh.

Anonymous said...

The district has had to plan its budget for the last 3 or 4 school years as if the GTA contract (or any others) would be settled - what's that money doing now?

SCATS said...

Regarding the Supt's remarks on the GTA contract ~~ While I don't disagree with what he's saying, I also hear him saying it from the frame of reference of a man whose days in his current position are numbered and he knows it.

Anonymous said...

After opening my school tax bill yesterday = i thought it was supposed to be lower (lie)= I drive down Long Pond to see people picketing for more money, wanting my tax bill to be even higher = I cannot tell you the rage i felt. I took a different route home to avoid seeing it again and became even more raged thinking how it is these same people who are teaching my kids.

SCATS said...

Note to GTA Prez ~~ It's probably not a good idea to protest your admittedly wonderful contract & health benefits on the same day that people get their tax bills that support your salary & benefits ;)

SCATS said...

From an email I received ~~ "Greece teachers work the shortest work day in the county, are currently paid in the top percentile of county teachers."

That's something we should all keep in my mind.

Anonymous said...

County tax is higher this year than the school tax. Worried that they will take away the star reduction for the 30K and lower the reduction for the 50K taxpayers. Then the tax will be around 600 more for the year? Only a matter of time. So the teachers better get their big pay and benefits package before next year. Otherwise they may have to suffer with a guaranteed 4% raise. And only having to pay 10% of their health insurance. And getting the best health plan in the county. And those top end teachers still get a raise when they move up a step.
And don't whine about how many years they went to school. Many engineers at kodak don't have guaranteed jobs and raises. They went to school for many years. If they marched outside of Kodak what reaction would their company have?
Just using kodak as an example. It is not the only one.

Anonymous said...

I agree 11:51. A family member with an MS degree in engineering and a very good job (outside of Rochester) doesn't make anything near to $80K+ per year! And he pays a lot more for health care, too! And he works substantially more than 185 days!

For anyone who wants to know more, here's the link to view the Greece teachers contract-
http://www.greeceteachers.com/gtacontract-july1-2004-june30-2006.pdf

SCATS said...

To 1:02PM ~~ Thank you!

Anonymous said...

@SCATS 10:14 - AAAAAAAAAAAAmen!!!

Point. Set. Match.

Charlie Hubbard said...

Scats; the unions position is?
The districts position is?

I will remind the readers of this site I have posted several times how the Comptrollers audit page 30 item 17 refers to how 'the benefit to the district' must be shown because the board voted to accept the report as written - HOWEVER - have failed to keep their word on the last 2 contracts.

The bottom line is if the board could be trusted to represent the taxpayers as they were elected to do and the unions knew that we would not be in this position now. Over the years the taxpayers have been absolutly 'screwed' by the school board(s).

A quick story of how bad things have been. In my second stint in 2005 we were talking about contracts in ex session and I asked one of the incumbents how much more $$ was needed to cover the last contract THEY had approved? The response was 3.5%. No I said, how much money is needed? What does 3.5% mean in dollars? NO IDEA
THAT was the 'kind of thinking' of the school board IE - no thought at all.

This contract needs 5 things.
#5 Absenteeism over x days - no raise. FIX IT
#4 Asking the taxpayers to fork out over $100,000 per year in the form of 'release time' to do union business is an absolute INSULT to every taxpayer. FIX IT
#3 Without educational improvements - no raise.
#2 Without educational improvements - no raise.
#1 Without educational improvements - NO RAISE.

The bottom line is the taxpayers deserve 'something' for their money. AND the taxpayers deserve to shown some RESPECT.