Tuesday, September 01, 2009

Did GCSD Miss The Boat By Not Starting School Earlier?

With Labor Day Coming Late This Year, RCSD & W Irondequoit Students Head Back To Classes This Week

Are Greece Students Getting Short-Changed?

13WHAM.com

SCATS ~~ I know it's the same number of days in attendence overall, but is it better going back in Aug. than getting out earlier in June?

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

Better how, Scats? Greece kids are not getting short changed. If they are, then the majority of schools in the state are short changing their students. I did a little research -- its just a handful starting before labor day. 180 days of instruction is 180 days of instruction no matter how you divide it up. Right?

SCATS said...

To 9:25AM ~~ I acknowledged that it's the SAME NUMBER OF DAYS ... "I know it's the same number of days in attendence overall, but is it better going back in Aug. than getting out earlier in June?"

I'm asking YOUR opinion ;)

Anonymous said...

I don't see the advantage of starting school before labor day.

Anonymous said...

I see an advantage of getting out soon after Memorial day. They do it in many other states. They also have longer Christmas breaks and no February breaks. February break just ruins continuity for students. We really need a longer school year, but I know the teachers will whine and stomp their feet about more pay to accomplish it. The kids always lose and our outcomes show it.

Anonymous said...

Isn't regents week always the same across no matter when they start school. So the kids in the earlier school will theoretically have more time to study for those tests. Maybe they will have an advantage.
Is there still a regents week?

Anonymous said...

I know schools in the south start in Aug and get out end of May because their weather gets so hot. Our summer is so short-lived that we take it to include Labor Day.

Schools in Buffalo start back this week. I wonder why the discrepancies within a state and within a region. Anyway you cut it--parents will be happy :).

Anonymous said...

So my opinion...as I said.....NOT GETTING SHORT CHANGED. :)

Anonymous said...

And why are parents happy? BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING RID OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF SUPERVISION. Mind you, they don't have 25 kids in their living room of all different abilities trying to learn the same content but they are none to hesitant to shuffle them out the door to the teachers that are berated on this blog almost daily for "not knowing how to do their jobs". Seems a little "double-speakish" wouldn't you say. And yeah, I know that isn't a word for all you grammar police out there.

SCATS said...

To 3:38PM ~~ I'm not sure if you are a teacher or not. If you are then you sound as if you didn't realize you'd be handling a couple of dozen or so kids as part of your job. Or that you'd be expected to impart a certain level of knowledge into their little noggins in 180 days time. Did you (or the teachers you are defending)research what teachers do before you decided to become one? Whether you are a teacher or not, your complaint about having to take on responsibility for supervision speaks volumes about your attitude towards children in general.

Anonymous said...

As a parent, I confess I have a love-hate relationship with the school district. Yes, I look forward to not having to keep the kids occupied all day long. However, I also dread sending them back to a place where the peer pressure is a huge problem, where the teachers have half-baked ideas for projects that require too much time, attention and expense from the parents, and where their health and safety is on my mind until they arrive home each day. I count the days until summer break and graduation (for the oldest).

Anonymous said...

3:38 doesn't sound like a teacher..their tone has a familiar ring to it ;).

I'd like to think most teachers are well aware of their responsibilities and do the best they can with what they have to work with. And if they're lucky, some students will be remembering them as having made a huge impression and a big difference in their lives.

The subject of poor parenting and its devastating effects is a whole other blog topic altogether.

Anonymous said...

Our academic achievement is in the toilet so WHAT difference does it make when our kids go back to school in Greece????????

Anonymous said...

If G.C.S. started earlier people would @#*^%$!@?!!! about that too...

SCATS said...

To 8:35PM ~~ There's no one worse than the one who complains about people who complain ;) Thank you for setting a fine example.

Anonymous said...

Scats,
I am 3:38 and I wasn't complaining at all. Teachers (of which I am not one, but am married to one) DO have supervisory responsibilities of the very same cherubs that parents can't wait to hustle out the door. Why is it that they can't wait to get a handful of kids out the door yet show so little respect for the individuals who teach a room full on a daily basis. Yes, becoming a teacher is a choice. So is becoming a parent. And to 5:24 - I don't know what tone you are talking about other than the one I assume (like everyone else on here) when I'm trying to make a point about something someone has said that I don't necessarily agree with. And, for the record, I happen to agree with almost everything you said. I don't think it's only "poor parenting" people that are excited to see their kids return, however. :)

SCATS said...

To 10:31AM ~~ Of course teachers have supervisory duties. Even those are spelled out in their contract ;)

I think the respect issue is significantly impacted by the fact that other than PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHERS, few people complain about their jobs, work conditions, duties, salaries, benefits, hours, etc. as loudly and as publicly as the aforementioned group who typically have GUARANTEED JOBS FOR LIFE with great pensions & health care benefits most of us would love ... and WE GET TO PAY THEIR WAY through our taxes. Add to that fact that teachers gathering to protest a contract that their own leadership acknowledges as being pretty damned good on the day the tax bill is received adds insult to injury. Then we can add to that the fact that when schools don't perform, it's the parents and students who are solely to blame. Please tell me what other occupation comes with so many perks and so few accountability requirements? In case you haven't noticed, Greece schools aren't measuring up around the area in recent years ;)

You can't demand respect, you can only earn it."

SCATS said...

From an email I received ~~ "Greece teachers work the shortest work day in the county, are currently paid in the top percentile of county teachers."

Yet they are protesting???

Anonymous said...

To read the Greece teachers contract-
http://www.greeceteachers.com/gtacontract-july1-2004-june30-2006.pdf

SCATS said...

To 1:03PM ~~ Thank you for that! :)