Sunday, September 06, 2009

Dan Maloney's Response About Summit, Etc.

Anonymous said...
I am Dan Maloney, and I can see that there has been much discussion regarding the Greece Economic Summit that was hosted by the law firm of Moyer Russi & Randall, 2300 Ridge Road, 2nd Floor, large conference room in Greece. The public was invited to attend, as Meaghan McDermott reported in her article dated September 2, 2009 titled “Auberger opponent in Greece stresses business aid”. There were signs posted on the first floor, the second floor, and the 4th floor, which is the headquarters to the Greece Democratic Committee candidates as well. The phone number for my campaign headquarters is 723-6335, and anyone in our community can contact me at any time. I have been busy trying to knock on all of the doors of the good people in our town of Greece, and 54 miles of town can be quite an effort. If I am delayed in responding on here, it’s because I am truly committed to concentrating and listening to and meeting all of our community’s residents, and incorporating their ideas into plans we can make a reality when I am elected, something my opponent has failed to do for years.

This meeting was called due to the need to form an alliance for the future of small and medium sized businesses in Greece. The current administration has created an unfriendly environment for small business to thrive in our community. I have heard this over and over as I have met with many of our town’s residents and business owners. Many businesses in Greece have stated they are over-regulated, and find little help or assistance in trying to turn their ideas into long-term success in Greece. Because of the downsizing of many of the large, industrial corporations in our area, such as Eastman Kodak, and Xerox Corporation, many of those laid off employees will often times tie on a ladder to their truck, or hang a shingle on an office in Greece, hoping that they can make up the difference needed to meet their financial obligations of a mortgage payment, utilities, insurance, food, and transportation. But the sad reality is that most of these small business ventures fail within the first year of operations.

As a community, we may all see or realize those shifts in the work force and the impact on our community in many ways. Perhaps it’s an empty storefront on a local corner, a neighbor who has struggled to make ends meet since becoming unemployed, a foreclosure on a neighbor’s property, or perhaps it’s even you or a member of your family. With a community the size of Greece, we know we can do more.

Let met start by thanking Mr. Vincent Moyer of the law firm of Moyer Russi & Randall, who was kind enough to host this summit at his office. Many of you may know Mr. Moyer as a distinguished member of our community, and former board member with the Greece Chamber of Commerce. Throughout the campaign, I have received numerous calls from retired business executives who have stated that they are willing to volunteer their services in a “brain trust” to help small and medium sized business flourish and give Greece a brighter future and increased employment opportunities for our residents. If elected, I plan to bring together all forces to bear to make this a reality. It’s all about job creation – creating jobs for small and medium-sized businesses and continuing to support the larger business in our community.

9/06/2009 3:07 PM


SCATS ~~ There are additional comments from him which I am posting inside due to length. To Mr. Maloney: THANK YOU!

51 comments:

SCATS said...

MORE FROM MR. MALONEY ~~

Anonymous said...
In attendance at the meeting were myself (which, by the way, my Chevrolet Blazer clearly “wrapped” with “Elect Dan Maloney for Greece Town Supervisor” was parked right in the front of the building, along with the other attendees vehicles) were representatives from the West Side Business Network, a well-known group of small business owners who want to see Greece become a more business-friendly community. There are currently over 40 businesses within this group that have a vested interested in the future of Greece. Their membership consists of business owners, managers and employees who connect with other west side businesses. Also in attendance was Mr. James Bertolone, representing the Rochester Labor Council, (http://rochesterlabor.org/rlc-history/index.html), a collaborative of Rochester’s organized labor unions and workers. Also in attendance were individual local business owners as well as a few local residents.

The discussion was based on first-hand experience on the over regulation of businesses in Greece, and the unfriendly environment for small and medium sized businesses and how we can make it easier, and friendlier for businesses to succeed. In doing so, we also create jobs, and economic stability for our entire community when we bring forward all the forces we have to bear, including the Greece Chamber of Commerce, the Westside Business Network, the Small Business Administration (SBA), and the Small Business Investment Company (SBIC - http://www.sba.gov/aboutsba/sbaprograms/inv/index.html) whose mission “is to improve and stimulate the national economy and small businesses by stimulating and supplementing the flow of private equity capital and long term loan funds for the sound financing, growth, expansion and modernization of small business operations while insuring the maximum participation of private financing sources.”

When elected, it is my intention to develop an Economic Development Group that will focus on effectively creating and prospering the growth of new business and jobs in Greece. We cannot idly sit by and wait for business to come to Greece. We need to make certain that business knows that they can count on our community to help them establish and grow their business, and that the groups and agencies that are currently in existence, including the Town Hall, will be there to help them every step of the way. It’s what our community deserves, it’s what our residents deserve, and it’s what business wants. As your supervisor, I will continue to listen and act on the concerns of our community, and will strive to continually make Greece a place where the town motto of “Discover The Promise” actually means something.
9/06/2009 3:07 PM

SCATS said...

AND EVEN MORE ~~

Anonymous said...
Please feel free to visit my website at www.Maloney2009.com, or email me at Dan@Maloney2009.com or call me at 723-6335. You can also join me at my next get together on Sunday, September 13th from 3:00 PM til 6:00 PM at the Braddock’s Bay State Park Lodge. I would love to have the opportunity to discuss the issues that are most important to you. Thank you all for the incredible support I have received from our community!

And to SCATS...I will be responding directly to the questions you have put forward after this holiday weekend. It's a working weekend for me, and I will be marching in the Labor Day Parade, but you have my word that you will be receiving answers to your questions.

9/06/2009 3:08 PM

Anonymous said...

Mr. Maloney, who were the individual concerned citizens who were also in attendance, as well as the other business owners. The GS's and yourself stress that their for openess in government, and I'd like to see who came to this summit.

SCATS said...

To 3:30PM ~~ I don't think that question is either relevant or appropriate. Unless he took attendence, he may not know. When it comes to Open Meetings, I'm opposed to the practice by our current leaders of trying to get people to "sign in" for nearly every type of meeting. It's no one's business to know who attends an Open Meeting.

Anonymous said...

Dan didn't do a perfect job here informing the community but he seems to have tried.

I'm not saying we should give him a pass on everything, but he does seem willing to look at alternatives

Anonymous said...

I agree SCATS. The practice of taking names and public floggings on blogs like they do to Brian Caterino has to stop.

I understand what he was doing. And anything that can create and keep new jobs here has my vote of approval.

Diane said...

Dan DID say he would get back to Scats on Labor Day weekend..and he kept his word. The fact that he had so many interested parties all come together for the common good of Greece's future development (and have this be a first major issue of concern) deserves praise...and many thanks..

and votes :D.

This town has suffered neglect long enough.

I still have a question for him though, which I should probably ask him personally myself.

Anonymous said...

I think this is GREAT news! The guy is not even in office yet, but he's listening to the community, and getting things in place to create real change.

I for one can identify exactly what he is saying. I lost my job at Kodak at age 52, and let me tell you something, getting a new job that has a salary you can afford to live on is near impossible. I am not the only one faced with this problem.

I thought I could do business consulting work, considering that I have a degree, and thought I might open my own business.

I have, and I run my business in the Village of Pittsford, and drive there every day from Greece.

Not because I want to, but because I had to. The village officials were supportive, helpful, friendly, and networked with other businesses that could help me not only establish myself, but succeed.

I think this kind of program is needed here in a drastic fashion. Even when I looked at buildings that were available in Greece, the zoning, planning, and permits requirements were more than what any small business could hope to overcome. After two months of basically wasting my time, I went to Pittsford.

I really don't get it. A "World Famous" hot dog joint can get a pass and then shut down, but a business that would hire at least 4 support personnel gets nothing but flack.

Keep going Maloney. I'm a republican, but I don't see red or blue in you. I see hope, and a future, and jobs. And that is a very good thing.

Anonymous said...

To 4;52 i am interested in starting a business too and was considering the city because of programs that help. Maybe he can get something going in Greece.

What is the world famous hot dogs business that was given a pass?

Anonymous said...

The one up on Ridge Road that went out of business. They didn't have to redo anything after Boston Market went under. Their signage was horrible, they didn't do anything to clean up the area or plant nice things as they require others to do. Now they are out of business and the place looks like a rats nest.

I was at that meeting that night, because I had to bring forward my business information. I got 100 hurdles to jump. The corporate hot dog guy just slid right in. I suspect there was a donation somewhere in someones name. I refuse to pay to play. I walk away with my dignity in tact.

Diane said...

I've heard that these little plazas where small businesses try to make a go of it are hit with high rent fees and if unable to pay even after only 1 month in business, are evicted. (For instance: on Stone there used to be a bookstore, then a dress shop, then a consignment shop, then a store selling pet fish....all evicted). Even the hairdresser that was there for 25 yrs had to leave because of the increased rent when new owners bought the property.

My question is: can anything be done to protect new businesses to give them a CHANCE to try to make it without greedy landlords closing them down at the get-go?

Anonymous said...

One obvious problem.
Ridge Road is no longer home to lot of local businesses, but like Henrietta and many other suburbs has become a tangle of mediocre national junk food and chain stores.
In the long run this is not good for an area.

Anonymous said...

Diane; you want the town to do what? You want the town involved in "this" type of thing?
As someone else said a while ago be carefull about judging "sucess" based on retail.
You want the town responsible for empty stores at the mall ect. ???

Diane said...

NO, no..not "responsible"..but it's such a shame to see something just open up and close within a month's time..I was just wondering if there was anything these small business owners can do to help themselves.

Maybe they had a poor plan to begin with..who knows.

And this area DOES need some good retail stores...I hardly think 3 dollar stores on Dewey has the answer to our shopping needs.

Anonymous said...

SCATS-I haven't yet figure you out. You are unhappy with Auberger, yet you want to criticize Dan Maloney every chance you get with you ridiculous headlines...questioning his integrity. You will say or do anything for a headline, which you call a story. You don't do any justice to the Town of Greece or the caring citizens who live here.

SCATS said...

To Diane @4:29PM ~~ To clarify, Dan told me he would respond this weekend to my questions about fiscal management. Now, he's put that off until sometime (unspecified) into the future. Instead, he's responded to the flak about the Economic Summit. I've been waiting since 8/23/09 ... it's already been two weeks. How long should I be patient for?

SCATS said...

To 6:22PM ~~ Please don't waste your time trying to figure me out. Instead, I suggest you use it to find a different BLOG to read ;)

Diane said...

Hey..for as long as it takes. He's already explained he's out on his rounds and it had to take awhile to compose and type those responses out to you. He's probably got to gather the pertinent info and put it in some semblance of order before he gets back to you. (My guess)

He's in communication with you..that's what you wanted. "Everything comes to those who wait". ;D

SCATS said...

To Diane ~~ "Hey..for as long as it takes."

That's a ridiculous answer! If I were to accept that, then I guess anyone who ever waited for a response from Auberger (I know I still am!) should just hang in there, right? ;)

Anonymous said...

(Michel Le Grand/Jacques Demy/Norman Gimbel)

"If it takes forever I will wait for you
For a thousand summers I will wait for you"

It's a beautiful song with these lyrics. I somehow don't think Dan is worth waiting that long for. Definitely not John.
We who write on here no how fast one can write something but of course we are anonymous. He should have his economic philosophy and platform in place before he takes to the streets. Of course as he listens to new people he can adjust we hope. It should not take him 2 weeks to respond with something of substance.

"The clock will tick away the hours one by one"

Anonymous said...

I thought the parking lot was basically empty and when someone went in they couldn't find the location or anyone to direct them there? But Mr. Maloney says there was a sign directing people to his office. Who's lying?

Anyone have a link for this W.S.B.N.? I couldn't readily find anything on them. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

SCATS, I don't know if you shut the other thread down so I'm posting my comment here too:

Maloney's associated with Metro Justice? Thanks for the link to that story. I never would have known that by reading his website. Sorry but that's just another deal breaker for supporting him. You want your taxes to go through the roof? Let Metro Justice and AQE have a puppet in town government. and sorry, but I'm not paying for the chance to meet Dan on the 13th. Notice he didn't say "feel free to come to my fundraising event" which is what that event is.

Anonymous said...

Westside Network With Other Businesses: Business owners, managers and employees connect with other west side businesses. 7:30 to 8:30 a.m. Aug. 18. Edward Jones Investments, 3177 Latta Road, Greece. Free. (585) 723-6850.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090816/BUSINESS/908160314&template=printart

Anonymous said...

9:45 goes to show that the GOP candidates are shoveling sh*t and you're all falling for it.

When did ANYONE mention Metro Justice?

Congratulations SCATS, you've been had in a big way! Usually you're smarter than they are.

Anonymous said...

9:48

Metro Justice was mentioned since Heather the campaign manager for Dan Maloney had a 2 page editorial featured on MJ's newsletter last month. That's why and that's relevant. It was totally about Greece and its (her words and MJ's)"scandals."

SCATS said...

To 9:48PM ~~ I'd love to know who I'm "falling for" ... especially since 6:22PM can't figure me out when I've been critical of both sides!

I'm looking for honesty, accountability and openess. I worry that instead of getting a chance to vote for the better candidate, the choice will be one of deciding between the lesser of two evils once again :(

FYI, Metro Justice was a topic on an older link titled "Leadership With Integrity"

Anonymous said...

6:22
Now you are right. Many are completely disheartened by the Auberger administration's lack of oversight that helped facilitate the crime in our town offices.
Many others are afraid that the alternative in November is an unknown that has ties to a very liberal activist group. And he does not want to get specific with fiscal theories and plans. Just because we are not satisfied with either one does not make us illogical.
Maybe we would like a candidate who is conservative and open and articulate and doesn't try to present his resume as I am not the incumbent.
And there really is no difference between the parties in Greece....the only difference is at the county level and even there it is more of a clubhouse difference.

Anonymous said...

Horsecrap. Obviously you've never spent time talking to Maloney or you could never make that statement.

SCATS said...

To 10:42PM ~~ I agree with much of what you say. On the one hand, we have Auberger's 12 year track record that's left many people wondering who's running things & why they are being run in such secretive and dictatorial ways.

On the other hand, we have virtual unknowns that we are struggling to get a feel for. We don't know what they represent until they tell us and then back it up with actions.

Whenever someone's actions and words don't match, it's cause for concern. The incumbent is scary, especially after all the scandals we've suffered. But so is the challenger, not only because he represents the unknown, but now actions and words are appearing to be somewhat out of sync ... time will tell.

Anonymous said...

Man is that guy verbose!

Anonymous said...

" now actions and words are appearing to be somewhat out of sync ... time will tell"

You're one to talk about actions and words appearing to be out of sync. Your true colors are beginning to show SCATS. It's only a matter of time...

Anonymous said...

Dan shouldn't even bother addressing your questions. Because you will spin everything your way to get a headline anyway.

No wonder the Republicans never responded to your call for BIOS on their candidates.

Go feed your cats.

Anonymous said...

1. Having met Dan once or twice I don't think that Maloney positions are those of Metro justice. I don't speak for him or claim to be an expert on his views but I suspect he is a bit more on the social conservative side.

2. Metro justice is simply a advocacy organization not some scary plot. There are even people in Greece who belong to it and support it. Some of you folks try to make it seem like it is a mortal sin to be a "liberal" Grow up. Metro Justice does some good things and some things I don't agree with -- so what. It seems likely that anyone on the democratic side is going have some contact with Metro Justice.

3. it's really not so good to carry out this game of guilt by association politics.
It tends to encourage a climate of fear and misinformation.

Anonymous said...

10;35
Is "association" with public employee unions ok?
I see one candidate got an endorsement of the gta = the biggest public employee union in town.
Should we not believe thier thinking is the same?

Anonymous said...

It's really too bad there couldn't be a public debate between Auberger and Maloney..I'm not getting the feeling that Auberger is even fighting to keep his position or answer any questions. Will Dems be holding a public forum of some sort?

SCATS said...

To 9:58AM ~~ You told me my "true colors" were showing months ago. Changing your little mind? AGAIN?? :D

SCATS said...

To 10:01AM ~~ I got a note from the Republicans apologizing that they couldn't send me their bios. They're still using them for some major CYA ;)

SCATS said...

To 11:49AM ~~ I have a feeling Auberger might be waiting until after Loszynski does his last press conference (tomorrow I think I heard). Then he'll come out swinging and claiming he got to the bottom of the cesspool he allowed to be made.

Anonymous said...

Look at this more objectively. Endorsement doesn't mean one's views are identical.
In the US there are many interest groups, trade and business associations, unions and social activist groups on both sides of the fence who endorse who they see as the best candiate.

We have -- for better or worse -- a two party system which means there are only two choices and as long as wer have it it is doubtful that every group or every person or every every mmber of a political party finds their views completely mirrored by the person they support.

Obama got endorsement from unions yet he failed to support legistation the unions consdered important in the last couple of months. On the other side the religious right often didn't get the legisation they wanted under either Bush or Reagan. So it's not quite that simple.

Anonymous said...

Believe it or not, agree with it or not, unions are no different that any other special interest group. They have their members work on political campaigns and make large campaign contributions with the expectation that the candidate will act on their interests if elected. The fact that Maloney is the president of a union means he definitely shares those interests and will carry those with him if elected. Some may be good, but we all know plenty are wrong for us taxpayers.

Since he's running as a non-incumbent, we're left with no choice but to believe what he says and take him at his word. Look where that's gotten us at the state and federal level - not so good.

So we're left with looking at past actions, speeches and activities for Dan. Has he conducted himself in the past in a way that confirms what he says in political campaign speeches? I'd say no. Go on goole and research this for yourself. Will his campaign team take 1 or 2 items and try to spin and over sell them as fiscally conservative stances, sure. Some may inevitably show up here refuting my statements. 1 or 2 or even 10 out of a lifetime isn't a whole heck of a lot.

Regarding Metro Justice and Maloney's campaign and his views - clearly Greece leans more conservative in its thinking, especially on fiscal issues. Why would Dan tell people here (whose votes he wants) about his views that he shares with organizations like this that he normally works with?

It wouldn't make any sense so he leaves that out of the speeches and press events. But once in, a leopard doesn't change its spots.

I'm not taking a position for or against what these groups stand for, just pointing out how it works.

Anonymous said...

Wow, Original Average Joe from the D&C makes it over here. Your writing style an empathetic closure give you away each and every time bud! HAHAHAHA!

Anonymous said...

There are fewer conservative people in Greece than you might think

Anonymous said...

I buy a lot of what you wrote
2:27. The fact remains that our choices are for change (Maloney & the unions) or more of the same (Auberger & his scandals). Maybe they will both leave a bad after taste but the real question is which one will cost us less in taxes over the long run?

Anonymous said...

to those who despise labor your fellow blog RT has a link to good story on the importance of labor day

Here is the link to the story
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Labor-Day-The-Forgotten-H-by-Brasch-090907-601.html

My wish for labor day is that working folks stop hating themselves and their fellow workers for asking for a decent life and ask why some have some much and many are struggling to make ends meet.

Anonymous said...

"I buy a lot of what you wrote
2:27. The fact remains that our choices are for change (Maloney & the unions) or more of the same (Auberger & his scandals). Maybe they will both leave a bad after taste but the real question is which one will cost us less in taxes over the long run?

9/07/2009 3:49 PM"


Like you mean Maloney and the unions that are ALREADY in Greece? Like the police, the ambulance workers, the clerical workers, the laborers, the skilled laborers? Those people who John Auberger has already been working with?

I choose MALONEY. Hands Down!

Anonymous said...

"Like you mean Maloney and the unions that are ALREADY in Greece?"

No, like when (if elected) Maloney doesn't even bother to negotiate contracts and gives away the entire shop to please his union buddies.

Ooops!

When you saids hands down, were you asking how many people thought Dan would actually lower taxes? LOL!!!

Anonymous said...

"My wish for labor day is that working folks stop hating themselves and their fellow workers for asking for a decent life and ask why some have some much and many are struggling to make ends meet."

Stop with the stupid guilt trip. I dont hate myself or anyone else and no matter how hard you try, you can't make me. YOUR SIDE is making it harder and harder for ME to take care of my family.

Try this one on for size, while democrats have raised taxes and spending in this state and the country, I'm now working 2 jobs and my wife is working too. Thanks a lot. I dont have time to hate anyone, I'm too busy working.

As you whine about how hard YOU have it, I hope you're not talking about having to LIVE with 4% pay raises every year and 90% health coverage. High end is over $80,000? Oh ya, sounds like a really hard life.

No sympathy from me my friend. Go look somewhere else.

Anonymous said...

@2:40 - keep guessing lefty, you silly little man. ;)

Anonymous said...

"Like you mean Maloney and the unions that are ALREADY in Greece?"

No, like when (if elected) Maloney doesn't even bother to negotiate contracts and gives away the entire shop to please his union buddies.

Ooops!

When you saids hands down, were you asking how many people thought Dan would actually lower taxes? LOL!!!

9/07/2009 8:41 PM


Any idiot that would think that any LABOR contract is not or would not be negotiated at any level has absolutely NO knowledge of unions, contracts, or labor.

Lowering Taxes? You're laughing? I know John Auberger is!

A fool and his money are soon parted!

Anonymous said...

Try this one on for size, while democrats have raised taxes and spending in this state and the country, I'm now working 2 jobs and my wife is working too. Thanks a lot. I dont have time to hate anyone, I'm too busy working.

Just like Jim Smith or David Michael Barry? Yeah, ROBUTRAD must really suck!

Anonymous said...

The reason why we are working more jobs has not been caused by any particular party. Neither party has been distinguished in its' response to the economic changes

The Us more than any other industrialized county had allowed corporations to shirk any civic responsibility and break the social contract that exited until the middle to late 70's.


Republicans are just as much to blame as democrats for this failure to protect our economic security.