Monday, August 10, 2009

Prayer At Town Board Meetings Goes To Court

Americans United for Separation of Church & State lawsuit against Greece starts Thursday

Alliance Defense Fund ~~ "the Court and the Town should not get involved in dictating the content of prayers. This is a matter best left to theologians."

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22 comments:

Anonymous said...

I am ashamed that the town can't defend itself and relies on groups funded by fundamentalists (this groups is closely tied to focus on the family and James Dobson) to support its interests. I don;t want my town associated with this group. It makes Greece look like a place run by backward hicks. Why is any money be expended on this. Why are we paying Ray DiRaddo anyway? Can anyone tell me of any work he has done

Anonymous said...

It could be construed as malfeasance that the town is solely relying on that group to defend itself in this action. Public bodies have to defend themselves in the interest of the public with their own lawyers paid for by the public whenever there is a legal dispute. These people may not be charging for their services but they are not free and are funded by donations. nevertheless the town should be funding their own defense with the town lawyers or lawyers contracted by the town. Maybe the time is right to remove these people from office before the election. How do we do that?

Anonymous said...

Ray DiRaddo has his hands full calculating which lawyers who donated campaign funds get which cases handed to them so they can recycle the campaign donations.
He can't be expected to actually do legal work on top of all that burden.

Anonymous said...

Yes Ray has a tough job indeed

Anonymous said...

Rumous has it that the Town didn't like the D&C Blogger so she is no more at the D& C at least. The Town of Irondequoit did the same thing to their blogger. D &C are such dummies.

Anonymous said...

After reading this I saw that rj is no longer a blogger and that her blogs have been removed. There were a number of blogs in which local candidates were introduced. I cannot find these in the site. There were also some blogs critical of the town leaders Rj come on here if needed anonymously and indicate what happened to these blogs and what happened to you

Anonymous said...

Defining Plagiarism:

"Plagiarism is the deliberate or negligent, copying of words, ideas and/or thoughts in whole, or in part, of another and then passing them off as original thought."²

It is not hard to tell if something is plagiarized. Taking works that are not your own and then publishing the article online as though it were your own is copyright infringement. Even attorneys have been involved in copyright infringement offenses. The legal AND monetary consequences can be quite severe. Consequences involving monetary retribution and "there is also a provision in the law for criminal penalties and imprisonment if the infringement is serious enough."³ An additional note to be aware of is, once an offence is committed and published online or in print, it can come back to haunt a person forever.

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Send her to jail.

SCATS said...

To 7:24PM ~~ Obviously, you have an ax to grind. Your multiple postings here show that for what it is. Please, take your beef back to the D&C and get it out of your system.

Anonymous said...

Another thing that occupies a lot of Rays time is threatening action against the deficate & Criminal for failing to cover the current administration in exactly the manner the misadministrators desire.

SCATS said...

To 12:50AM ~~ WARNING! I don't appreciate the tastelessness of your comment. It adds NOTHING to your comment.

Anonymous said...

LOL!!! "certain" commenters get warnings while "others" get deleted. LOL!!!

SCATS said...

To 6:12PM ~~ Yes, I made a distinction between people and other entities. Got a problem with it?

Anonymous said...

No Scats, just your hypocrisy.

SCATS said...

To 7:22AM ~~ Never in my wildest imagination did I ever expect that name-calling would somehow be construed to pertain to a non-human. Unless you work for the company involved, what difference does it make to you?

Anonymous said...

If it was not for the Town Supervisor's grandstanding we would not be in this position. What was so terribly wrong with the way Town Board meetings were facilitated in the past.
At the start of the meeting the supervisor would call attention deaths and illness of citizen who were well known for their contributions to the town, have a moment of silence (personal freedom to do what you want in your own way to recognize these events) and then on with the business at hand.

Today we the tax payers will have to contend with a lawsuit for the Supervisors actions specific to the religious argument, then another more lawsuits due to the supervisorings hiring of 2 unprofessional police officers.
John A is like the good little bad boy that we continually pay a salary to and while paying his way out of trouble. Where does this end.

Anonymous said...

When they stop swearing in the President with one hand on a bible, this may be valid.

When they remove "In God We Trust" from all currency, this may be valid.

When they take "One nation, under God" out of the "Pledge of Allegiance" this may be valid.

When they stop referring to the scribes in government as "clerical" workers, this may be valid.

Now move along, nothing to see here.

Anonymous said...

One other comment - just because an atheist does not believe does not mean that they should force their practices on those who do. Condemnation and judgment shouldn't exist in their world, yes? Oh the consequences...

Anonymous said...

the issue isn't atheists, or even prayer its Christians or more precisely the small number of Christians who think that Greece is a (white) Christian nation. If Auberger had non-sectarian prayer like they do in many towns in our area, there would be no case.

Again it is Auberger's stubbornness that is costing our town money and bad publicity.

SCATS said...

Regarding prayer at Town Board meetings ~~ I've attended a few of these, quite a few actually. Going back to a few years ago, I must say I was absolutely STUPEFIED as an audience member the first time I witnessed this activity of a clergy person offering a prayer! I felt the same way again this year when the clergy person not only offered a prayer but invoked "the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit" while speaking! I'm Christian, but I felt VERY UNEASY by that prayer! It's much too specific in religious content to be considered a "generic" offering by a govt body. For that reason, I think the town will lose its case in court.

Anonymous said...

Wait a minute. Someone said God. Are you serious? You mean to tell me that someone actually used the G-word? No. Not that. Please no. Anything but that. This cannot be allowed to go on. This is the most important issue facing our planet today. Seriously. THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE!!!

SCATS said...

To 2:37PM ~~ You didn't say, but it sounds like your remark was directed at me. Nowhere did I use the "God." That word wasn't the issue. Try to follow along. I know it's tough when your own bias and agenda skews your ability to think, reason and comprehend.

Anonymous said...

It might be nice to hear what the democrat candidates position is on this issue