Tuesday, August 04, 2009

Mother of Disabled Kids Fights Greece Over Ordinances

Single Mom Erects Shed & Pool In Front Yard Because She Has No Backyard
Pool Used For Therapy
Hearing Scheduled For Sept.

STORY

SCATS ~~ I didn't realize Greece enforced ANY of its ordinances!

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

The only places they don't enforce ordinances is at Northgate Plaza and Buckman's Plaza.

Anonymous said...

Where the heck can you live in town and have no backyard? Aside from an apt. I mean?

While I appreciate her dilemma, I certainly wouldn't want her to get a variance if I was her neighbor. Perhaps she needs to relocate to a more suitable home.

Anonymous said...

It would seem that the community could get together to buy/ build her an attractive fence that wouldn't make the house look shoddy. If anyone does this, I would certainly be willing to give money to it. I'd go build it myself if I had the skills.

Anonymous said...

Many homes in the Dewey Stone area were built back in the 30's and
40's and were placed at the very back of the lot so they have no backyard but do have a very long front yard. These home are on Almay Rd, Bakerdale Rd, Estall and so on. It has nothing to do with the upkeep on these homes. This is just the way they were built years ago.

Anonymous said...

It sounds like her pool is put up each year and taken down at the end of the season. A pool like that would fit in most of the dewey stone back yards. Even if it was in her back yard it would still have to have a fence. So she will have to get a fence. There is no variance available since it is a state law that says any pool under 4 ft has to have a fence since any kid could just jump in . The larger ones do not have to have a fence since they have to have a retractable ladder. Look it up on the town website. And if it is in the front yard that is why the town got involved. They usually chance people dying if it is in the back yard.

SCATS said...

I just watched this story on the news. (http://www.whec.com/article/stories/S1065468.shtml?cat=566&v=1 )

They showed her pool and her yard. She already has a chain link fence. It sounds as though the town wants her to get another fence right around the pool and proper wiring for it. She says she hasn't got the money to pay for it. The hearing will cost her
$300.

Interestingly, they interviewed Leo Carroll who was identified as "working in the assessor's office." Is it just me or isn't he the actual assessor?

Anonymous said...

This is the web site of the group that is going to donate whatever is needed for those kids to keep their pool. http://thebeamerhughesfoundation.com

Anonymous said...

Again someone who maybe through no fault of her own ignorance didn't follow the rules and get the permits needed to put in a pool. There were articles in the paper about this the last time a little one was drowned in the city.
So this hughes group is going to help the mother who did it the wrong way as opposed to the many that would like a pool and can't afford a fence.
So here is a suggestion. Anyone that is a single parent ( or double) and has kids that would feel better about themselves in a pool but can't afford the 2 to 3 grand for a fence just contact that group. They should want to help families that try to do it the right way first.

Anonymous said...

Scats
Do you think it is ok for her to have a pool that anyone can wander into? And the proper wiring must be for a pool filter? What else? If it is a filter and a pump it would keep the mosquitoes breeding ground under control.
Why is it that there is so much sympathy for these parents that when they are exposed as doing something wrong they run to the press or TV and people feel outraged that we dare "persecute" them.
Greece and the city deserve what they get.

SCATS said...

To 11:01PM ~~ Actually, I think this problem with the pool goes way beyond even what you have suggested. I've looked into a few things related to this situation and I'm wondering if the Beamer Hughes Foundation realizes what is really going on here.

First off, it is clearly stated in Greece Town Code that: " Swimming pools may be located in rear yards only and conform to the setbacks established in the Town of Greece Zoning Ordinance." It's obvious this family snubbed their noses at getting a permit for the pool from the gitgo. I wonder why? MAYBE because they knew it wasn't going to be legal. And maybe one of their "supportive" neighbors blew them in to the town.

On the news video, the water appeared cloudy. Perhaps they didn't bother to install a filter ...? Or maybe they aren't treating it with the proper chemicals ... ? Possibly both ... which makes it a health hazard on top of a safety hazard.

Given all of the above, I bet it is safe to assume that they have failed to tell their Homeowner's Insurance Co. that they have a pool on their property, too. Pools make insurance rates rise and the mother admitted they can't afford the required fencing. I doubt they can afford a rate increase either. Will Beamer Hughes pay the annual premium too? Doubtful.

All of the issues outlined above go to liability, whether it's to family safety or the safety of others who happen to come by ... say the mailman, paperboy or UPS guy who needs to deliver to this house and likely must enter the front yard's fenced area where the pool is located. While I sympathize with the mother over the situation her boys are in, I hope a different solution is found. Maybe someone with a pool that is up to code AND insured will let them have access? Or maybe the YMCA donates memberships?

When it comes to pools, it should always be about SAFETY FIRST.

SCATS said...

To 11:32PM ~~ I guess I was typing while you were typing ;)

Anonymous said...

from 11:32
"great minds"
Obviously I agree totally.

Anonymous said...

The YMCA membership would be a great idea. The boys could swim year round.

I too sympathize with this mom. I did question if it is for therapy where is the agency that provide service to the boys. My son gets PT and for any thing "therapy related" they always provide a "RX" for the need.

Maybe rather than the quickset pool a therapy pool would be best.

I do think she may have know that she was not in code, however becasue of the number of people that have the quick set kettle pools I think many do not realize they are not like a kiddie pool and fall in to NYS pool code.

Anonymous said...

Drive by the property on Willis since this is now news due to the mother's public complaint. Very unkempt property. The fence is there but does not keep anyone off the property since it does not enclose. There are a few other houses on Willis that look like this. Also Bennington And Barnard and Florida etc. It used to be that you had to travel to Joseph Ave to see this level of property that is not looked after. Greece is where the city was 10 years ago. Where are areas that look neat? Soon mothers in Greece will be pretending to live in Pittsford.